Comments on: Tournament Rules – Forcing to Show Hands http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/ Texas Hold'em and Las Vegas WSOP Poker Blog, now with PLO too! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Bubba http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-20780 Bubba Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:30:02 +0000 http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/#comment-20780 woops never had so much fun woops never had so much fun

]]> By: Bubba http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-20778 Bubba Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:28:49 +0000 http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/#comment-20778 I think I have played with michele at the bellagio or the wynn in the last couple of years. After checking out her site; I need had some much fun losing money to a girl she is extremely witty and talented and of course easy on the eyez.........I wish all players looked like her. I think I have played with michele at the bellagio or the wynn in the last couple of years. After checking out her site; I need had some much fun losing money to a girl she is extremely witty and talented and of course easy on the eyez………I wish all players looked like her.

]]> By: Fresh Princess http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-20775 Fresh Princess Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:25:44 +0000 http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/#comment-20775 Yes Marvin, great of you to mention. Players dumping chips to one another is collusion. This is one way online sites catch cheaters. Yes Marvin, great of you to mention. Players dumping chips to one another is collusion. This is one way online sites catch cheaters.

]]> By: DanM http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-20729 DanM Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:12:41 +0000 http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/#comment-20729 interesting. i never thought about this in terms of preventing collusion. but i can now see where that could be the case. that's the thing about poker rules ... as minutiae-oriented as they can be, they all generally have a purpose, often in protecting the integrity of the game. (burn cards used to prevent the infusion of marked cards, for example.) interesting. i never thought about this in terms of preventing collusion. but i can now see where that could be the case. that’s the thing about poker rules … as minutiae-oriented as they can be, they all generally have a purpose, often in protecting the integrity of the game. (burn cards used to prevent the infusion of marked cards, for example.)

]]> By: Marvin C http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-20699 Marvin C Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:11:17 +0000 http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/#comment-20699 In the good old days, as Jack McClelland called them, there was collusion, dumping, and long delays as two bluffers waited for the other to show their hand. As no-limit got more popular and not enough tournaments were televised with miniture cameras, the rule makers made the right decision to make all all-in players show their hands. It cut down collusion and dumping and sped up the game. It is not an absolute rule, as I didn't have to show my losing top pair ace kicker all-in hand to a straight this past weekend because nobody at the table asked for it and the dealer dealt the turn and river quickly. Without having to turn over her hand, a well known sister would have dumped all her chips to her brother in the winner take all tournament where her brother was favored but she wasn't. She outflopped her brother. The split in the so called winner take all might have been different. In the good old days, as Jack McClelland called them, there was collusion, dumping, and long delays as two bluffers waited for the other to show their hand. As no-limit got more popular and not enough tournaments were televised with miniture cameras, the rule makers made the right decision to make all all-in players show their hands. It cut down collusion and dumping and sped up the game. It is not an absolute rule, as I didn’t have to show my losing top pair ace kicker all-in hand to a straight this past weekend because nobody at the table asked for it and the dealer dealt the turn and river quickly.

Without having to turn over her hand, a well known sister would have dumped all her chips to her brother in the winner take all tournament where her brother was favored but she wasn’t. She outflopped her brother. The split in the so called winner take all might have been different.

]]> By: Fresh Princess http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-20498 Fresh Princess Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:38:53 +0000 http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/#comment-20498 Thanks Bubba and Dan. Thanks for telling everyone I am smart after I disclosed to the public that I didn't know everything. PokerLetter.Org thank you for the TDA ruling. Thanks Bubba and Dan. Thanks for telling everyone I am smart after I disclosed to the public that I didn’t know everything.
PokerLetter.Org thank you for the TDA ruling.

]]> By: PokerLetter.org http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-20448 PokerLetter.org Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:24:46 +0000 http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/#comment-20448 "Rule 9. Face up All cards will be turned face up once a player is all in and all action is complete." Tournament Directors Association Rules “Rule 9. Face up All cards will be turned face up once a player is all in and all action is complete.” Tournament Directors Association Rules

]]> By: DanM http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-20094 DanM Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:38:04 +0000 http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/#comment-20094 Hey Bubba! This is indeed The Fresh Princess of Bellaire ... aka "<a href="http://www.michelelewis.net">Michele</a>," Pokerati's new Houston correspondent. I hope you and the other readers will give her a warm welcome ... she's a smart lady and <a href="http://bluffmagazine.com/players/playerBIOs.asp?playerID=19168&pagecolor=FFFFFF">accomplished player</a> taking her stabs on the pro tournament circuit, so she should have some good insight to provide. We look forward to "using" her to <s>class up the joint</s> make Clonie jealous. Hey Bubba! This is indeed The Fresh Princess of Bellaire … aka “Michele,” Pokerati’s new Houston correspondent. I hope you and the other readers will give her a warm welcome … she’s a smart lady and accomplished player taking her stabs on the pro tournament circuit, so she should have some good insight to provide.

We look forward to “using” her to class up the joint make Clonie jealous.

]]> By: Bubba http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-20017 Bubba Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:05:23 +0000 http://pokerati.com/2007/01/30/tournament-rules-forcing-to-show-hands/#comment-20017 Hoyles rules state the following:"34. All hands will be turned faceup whenever a player is all-in and betting action is complete. " P.S. are you the fresh princess of Bellaire? Hoyles rules state the following:”34. All hands will be turned faceup whenever a player is all-in and betting action is complete.
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P.S. are you the fresh princess of Bellaire?

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