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	<title>Comments on: Mark Seif Speaks: Nothing is Absolute</title>
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		<title>By: Pokerati &#124; Texas hold&#8217;em blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; It&#8217;s On! Mark Seif v. Dan Druff, Round 1</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-145982</link>
		<dc:creator>Pokerati &#124; Texas hold&#8217;em blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; It&#8217;s On! Mark Seif v. Dan Druff, Round 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] beginning of the recent AP scandal was viewed as suspicious by many online players, though he did speak with Pokerati nearly two weeks ago to express his concern over the situation. He then sat down with the Raw Vegas [...]</description>
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		<title>By: david webber</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-144447</link>
		<dc:creator>david webber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trust, like love, is for fools. in other words, if you don&#039;t get to un-derange the dealers cards, you are a fool thinking you are NOT  giving your money away.online is a live casinoes dream. they scam more than they could after travel expenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trust, like love, is for fools. in other words, if you don&#8217;t get to un-derange the dealers cards, you are a fool thinking you are NOT  giving your money away.online is a live casinoes dream. they scam more than they could after travel expenses.</p>
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		<title>By: Potripper.com - The Absolute Poker Scandal Source &#187; Mark Seif interviewed by Pokerati</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109726</link>
		<dc:creator>Potripper.com - The Absolute Poker Scandal Source &#187; Mark Seif interviewed by Pokerati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark Seif Speaks: Nothing is Absolute Pokerati.com [...]</description>
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		<title>By: POTRIPPER</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109694</link>
		<dc:creator>POTRIPPER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another thing, my name is NOT POT-RIPPER, as many of you donks like to think. It&#039;s PO-TRIPPER (as in &quot;I&#039;m Trippin on the PO-lice&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another thing, my name is NOT POT-RIPPER, as many of you donks like to think. It&#8217;s PO-TRIPPER (as in &#8220;I&#8217;m Trippin on the PO-lice&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: AJ GREEN</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109692</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ GREEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know why that idiot CRAZYMARCO is bitching about? Think about it, heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s the one with the superuser account. Who in the hell would push all in on a 9 high? Unless he saw my hole cards and the odds of him making a flush versus my 10 high was good? And what if he did hit his flush? You think heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d be crying about it? NOOOOOOOO. I put my money out there just like anyone else&quot;

hahahahahahahahahahha!
hahahahahahahahahhahaahahahha!

good one !!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know why that idiot CRAZYMARCO is bitching about? Think about it, heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s the one with the superuser account. Who in the hell would push all in on a 9 high? Unless he saw my hole cards and the odds of him making a flush versus my 10 high was good? And what if he did hit his flush? You think heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d be crying about it? NOOOOOOOO. I put my money out there just like anyone else&#8221;</p>
<p>hahahahahahahahahahha!<br />
hahahahahahahahahhahaahahahha!</p>
<p>good one !!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: POTRIPPER</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109691</link>
		<dc:creator>POTRIPPER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why that idiot CRAZYMARCO is bitching about?  Think about it, he&#039;s the one with the superuser account.  Who in the hell would push all in on a 9 high?  Unless he saw my hole cards and the odds of him making a flush versus my 10 high was good? And what if he did hit his flush? You think he&#039;d be crying about it? NOOOOOOOO. I put my money out there just like anyone else</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why that idiot CRAZYMARCO is bitching about?  Think about it, he&#8217;s the one with the superuser account.  Who in the hell would push all in on a 9 high?  Unless he saw my hole cards and the odds of him making a flush versus my 10 high was good? And what if he did hit his flush? You think he&#8217;d be crying about it? NOOOOOOOO. I put my money out there just like anyone else</p>
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		<title>By: The Pokerkeep</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109653</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pokerkeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a sad time for online poker.  While this scandal appears to have been perpetrated by one or two high ranking execs within Absolute and is not indicative of the practices or security of the other major online poker rooms, the repercussions will be felt far and wide.

This situation provides months or years worth of fuel for the &quot;online poker is rigged&#039; crowd.

It comes at the worst time for the American players and the PPA.  Just when they are making progress... BOOM!

What I find most appalling though is that in spite of all the evidence and the admission of a major breach in AP&#039;s security, there has been no significant drop in their player base.  There has been very little public outcry.  Most affiliates continue to promote Absolute.

It makes me wonder what it would really take to get the online poker community stirred up or outraged.... 

Like I said, a sad time for online poker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a sad time for online poker.  While this scandal appears to have been perpetrated by one or two high ranking execs within Absolute and is not indicative of the practices or security of the other major online poker rooms, the repercussions will be felt far and wide.</p>
<p>This situation provides months or years worth of fuel for the &#8220;online poker is rigged&#8217; crowd.</p>
<p>It comes at the worst time for the American players and the PPA.  Just when they are making progress&#8230; BOOM!</p>
<p>What I find most appalling though is that in spite of all the evidence and the admission of a major breach in AP&#8217;s security, there has been no significant drop in their player base.  There has been very little public outcry.  Most affiliates continue to promote Absolute.</p>
<p>It makes me wonder what it would really take to get the online poker community stirred up or outraged&#8230;. </p>
<p>Like I said, a sad time for online poker.</p>
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		<title>By: California Jen</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109647</link>
		<dc:creator>California Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article on PokerWorks gives Dan a shout-out for the exclusive Seif interview and includes a letter sent from the Kahnawake Gaming Commission.

http://pokerworks.com/article-1367.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article on PokerWorks gives Dan a shout-out for the exclusive Seif interview and includes a letter sent from the Kahnawake Gaming Commission.</p>
<p><a href="http://pokerworks.com/article-1367.html" rel="nofollow">http://pokerworks.com/article-1367.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Drizztdj</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109645</link>
		<dc:creator>Drizztdj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a long time player at Absolute, final cash out made this weekend.

Granted I play no where near the stakes that people would want to use a superaccount at, but the security of my ill-gotten funds deserves at least a fair gamble.

Like the penny slots at InterCasino.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a long time player at Absolute, final cash out made this weekend.</p>
<p>Granted I play no where near the stakes that people would want to use a superaccount at, but the security of my ill-gotten funds deserves at least a fair gamble.</p>
<p>Like the penny slots at InterCasino.com</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109633</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, BPP ... I know you do. And Donkey knows I know he knows I know where he hangs, too.

By the way, the semi-substantiated rumors I am now hearing are that various Absolute bad guys are moving to Panama and changing their names. (Seriously.)

This is a perfect example of why online poker legal issues are about so much more than just poker -- they are about international finance and legal jurisdictions. I mean it&#039;s not like the United States can just go into a country like Panama and forcibly extract a suspected criminal and force him to face the US Justice system. 

Oh, wait a minute ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, BPP &#8230; I know you do. And Donkey knows I know he knows I know where he hangs, too.</p>
<p>By the way, the semi-substantiated rumors I am now hearing are that various Absolute bad guys are moving to Panama and changing their names. (Seriously.)</p>
<p>This is a perfect example of why online poker legal issues are about so much more than just poker &#8212; they are about international finance and legal jurisdictions. I mean it&#8217;s not like the United States can just go into a country like Panama and forcibly extract a suspected criminal and force him to face the US Justice system. </p>
<p>Oh, wait a minute &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: betfair poker player</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109631</link>
		<dc:creator>betfair poker player</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shucks guys, you got me! Have moved to Germany now though.   Living in the grim industiral town of Essen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shucks guys, you got me! Have moved to Germany now though.   Living in the grim industiral town of Essen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill&#8217;s Poker Blog &#187; Absolute Changes Story . . . . Again!</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109624</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill&#8217;s Poker Blog &#187; Absolute Changes Story . . . . Again!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Side topic: Check out Pokerati&#8217;s interview with Absolute part-owner and spokesman Mark Seif. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Side topic: Check out Pokerati&#8217;s interview with Absolute part-owner and spokesman Mark Seif. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eGaming Today</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109596</link>
		<dc:creator>eGaming Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was posted this afternoon at Pocket Fives.

&quot;This person was the second in charge and has been fired from AP, and his one superior Scott Tom is going to be removed from running AP for a significant period of time. ...

This person was Scott Tom&#039;s best friend and actually lived at Scott Tom&#039;s house in Costa Rica. Scott Tom has been living in Panama for quite some time, and the day to day operations of AP were left to the care of his best friend and second in charge at AP. Unfortunately since the person in command of AP was also the thief he obviously issued numerous steadfast denials of any wrong doing. Basically he was investigating himself.&quot;

http://www.egamingtoday.com/Article/AbsolutePoker/P5Update.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was posted this afternoon at Pocket Fives.</p>
<p>&#8220;This person was the second in charge and has been fired from AP, and his one superior Scott Tom is going to be removed from running AP for a significant period of time. &#8230;</p>
<p>This person was Scott Tom&#8217;s best friend and actually lived at Scott Tom&#8217;s house in Costa Rica. Scott Tom has been living in Panama for quite some time, and the day to day operations of AP were left to the care of his best friend and second in charge at AP. Unfortunately since the person in command of AP was also the thief he obviously issued numerous steadfast denials of any wrong doing. Basically he was investigating himself.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.egamingtoday.com/Article/AbsolutePoker/P5Update.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.egamingtoday.com/Article/AbsolutePoker/P5Update.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: California Jen</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109593</link>
		<dc:creator>California Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark did use the words &quot;absolute&quot; and &quot;absolutely&quot; quite often, didn&#039;t he?

I agree that Mark is in an awkward position. He is doing the right thing by waiting for official statements from Absolute, and I can see him making the right decision once the site gives their final word on it. He&#039;s too smart not to see the forest through the trees here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark did use the words &#8220;absolute&#8221; and &#8220;absolutely&#8221; quite often, didn&#8217;t he?</p>
<p>I agree that Mark is in an awkward position. He is doing the right thing by waiting for official statements from Absolute, and I can see him making the right decision once the site gives their final word on it. He&#8217;s too smart not to see the forest through the trees here.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark McAndrew</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109591</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark McAndrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can&#039;t have anything that&#039;s absolute...&quot; (~13:00) Now that&#039;s a quote.

I&#039;m sure Mark Seif is merely in the very awkward position of finding that his trust in certain friends has been misplaced.

You&#039;d think Absolute would be a bit quicker in releasing his requested hand history, though. What&#039;s it stored on, punch cards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can&#8217;t have anything that&#8217;s absolute&#8230;&#8221; (~13:00) Now that&#8217;s a quote.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Mark Seif is merely in the very awkward position of finding that his trust in certain friends has been misplaced.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d think Absolute would be a bit quicker in releasing his requested hand history, though. What&#8217;s it stored on, punch cards?</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff (TehBRD)</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109586</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff (TehBRD)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL... Dan, if you really want to look into it, email me the IP.  Adanthar and Nat from 2p2 have Scott Tom&#039;s home IP address and a lot of IPs from the scandal... they were all in that hand history sent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230; Dan, if you really want to look into it, email me the IP.  Adanthar and Nat from 2p2 have Scott Tom&#8217;s home IP address and a lot of IPs from the scandal&#8230; they were all in that hand history sent.</p>
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		<title>By: donkey</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109583</link>
		<dc:creator>donkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, can you check the IP address for Betfair Poker Player to see if it&#039;s from Costa Rica? More specifically, from Scott Tom&#039;s house?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, can you check the IP address for Betfair Poker Player to see if it&#8217;s from Costa Rica? More specifically, from Scott Tom&#8217;s house?</p>
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		<title>By: betfair poker player</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109581</link>
		<dc:creator>betfair poker player</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still find it hard to believe that the actual company was involved or that this is endemic in the workplace culture but it certainly will cause people to lose faith in the online business.

My own view is that it was one employeee who got greedy. There are many example of this in every profession but it is unfortunate that this came to light in such a prominent way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still find it hard to believe that the actual company was involved or that this is endemic in the workplace culture but it certainly will cause people to lose faith in the online business.</p>
<p>My own view is that it was one employeee who got greedy. There are many example of this in every profession but it is unfortunate that this came to light in such a prominent way.</p>
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		<title>By: Short-Stacked Shamus</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2007/10/21/mark-seif-interview-absolute-poker-scandal/comment-page-1/#comment-109580</link>
		<dc:creator>Short-Stacked Shamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>19,000-plus players at nearly 3,000 tables.  Mind-boggling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>19,000-plus players at nearly 3,000 tables.  Mind-boggling.</p>
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