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		<title>By: Harris</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160641</link>
		<dc:creator>Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick comment about harrah&#039;s blimped profits.  I overheard a sports book supervisor today say that month to date they are down over 450k from last year.  Specifically from 600k to under 150k, that&#039;s just the sports book mind you, doesn&#039;t include the rest of the casino.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick comment about harrah&#8217;s blimped profits.  I overheard a sports book supervisor today say that month to date they are down over 450k from last year.  Specifically from 600k to under 150k, that&#8217;s just the sports book mind you, doesn&#8217;t include the rest of the casino.</p>
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		<title>By: Pokerati &#124; Texas Hold&#8217;em Blog &#124; Semi-live and Unofficial at the WSOP &#187; Blog Archive &#187; RE: So Let&#8217;s Talk Poker TV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pokerati &#124; Texas Hold&#8217;em Blog &#124; Semi-live and Unofficial at the WSOP &#187; Blog Archive &#187; RE: So Let&#8217;s Talk Poker TV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160637</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***Nothing like seeing crap through most of the 2 hours and then like 5 min of heads up when we know it was much longer than that.***

Yeah, I think that&#039;s what one of my problems with it was ... the way it was cut together, it really wasn&#039;t very different from any other episode. I woulda been just as fine watching this thing two weeks or two months after the fact as I was watching it one day after. It was too much like all the other episodes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***Nothing like seeing crap through most of the 2 hours and then like 5 min of heads up when we know it was much longer than that.***</p>
<p>Yeah, I think that&#8217;s what one of my problems with it was &#8230; the way it was cut together, it really wasn&#8217;t very different from any other episode. I woulda been just as fine watching this thing two weeks or two months after the fact as I was watching it one day after. It was too much like all the other episodes.</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160636</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***their already blimped out profits***

That&#039;s simply not true, dude. My bad for not getting more articles up about this, but Harrah&#039;s is &lt;i&gt;hurting&lt;/i&gt;. All of Vegas is. (Heck, all of America is.)

Blimped out profits definitely don&#039;t exist in anything involving the casino biz these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***their already blimped out profits***</p>
<p>That&#8217;s simply not true, dude. My bad for not getting more articles up about this, but Harrah&#8217;s is <i>hurting</i>. All of Vegas is. (Heck, all of America is.)</p>
<p>Blimped out profits definitely don&#8217;t exist in anything involving the casino biz these days.</p>
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		<title>By: smokkee</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160634</link>
		<dc:creator>smokkee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO KK got more than enuf TV time being the shorty going in.  the HU match got short-changed.  they should run the ppv for degens like me and a 2-hr version of the whole thing for nOObs.  ESPN/Harrahs did a poor job of pimping the entire thing.  where was the superbowl hype everyone was expecting?  hmm well i guess that would cut into their already blimped out profits.  

gg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO KK got more than enuf TV time being the shorty going in.  the HU match got short-changed.  they should run the ppv for degens like me and a 2-hr version of the whole thing for nOObs.  ESPN/Harrahs did a poor job of pimping the entire thing.  where was the superbowl hype everyone was expecting?  hmm well i guess that would cut into their already blimped out profits.  </p>
<p>gg</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160633</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok I &quot;watched&quot; it tonight.  Glad it was TIVOed and not &quot;live&quot; because most of it bored me. Nothing like seeing crap through most of the 2 hours and then like 5 min of heads up when we know it was much longer than that.  Oh well...they tried.  I think I laughed when they kept going on about the packed theater.  How many were there? 1000 or so?  a little less than 1/3 belonged to Dennis. easy to pack a place if the 9 players can get a lot of people to show up.

Oh and Dan, I blame the black light for the bad views of the audience.  That shit gave me a headache everytime they showed them.

This years ESPN main event coverage 7 out of 10.  Pretty much where I put the past 2 years.

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I &#8220;watched&#8221; it tonight.  Glad it was TIVOed and not &#8220;live&#8221; because most of it bored me. Nothing like seeing crap through most of the 2 hours and then like 5 min of heads up when we know it was much longer than that.  Oh well&#8230;they tried.  I think I laughed when they kept going on about the packed theater.  How many were there? 1000 or so?  a little less than 1/3 belonged to Dennis. easy to pack a place if the 9 players can get a lot of people to show up.</p>
<p>Oh and Dan, I blame the black light for the bad views of the audience.  That shit gave me a headache everytime they showed them.</p>
<p>This years ESPN main event coverage 7 out of 10.  Pretty much where I put the past 2 years.</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin C</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160632</link>
		<dc:creator>Marvin C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see what was gained by waiting until November to show the finals. We all knew what happened before it aired. And, they should have shown KK final hand. 

They said it would be &quot;Live.&quot; They should have shown at least 4 hours. 

I said before that we should wait and see how it plays out. I was wrong. It didn&#039;t play out very well.

This was not a good week for ABC/ESPN. First they have a Heidi NASCAR race, then a much too short WSOP. I think they forgot how to cover sports or competitions that aren&#039;t football, baseball, or basketball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see what was gained by waiting until November to show the finals. We all knew what happened before it aired. And, they should have shown KK final hand. </p>
<p>They said it would be &#8220;Live.&#8221; They should have shown at least 4 hours. </p>
<p>I said before that we should wait and see how it plays out. I was wrong. It didn&#8217;t play out very well.</p>
<p>This was not a good week for ABC/ESPN. First they have a Heidi NASCAR race, then a much too short WSOP. I think they forgot how to cover sports or competitions that aren&#8217;t football, baseball, or basketball.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160629</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The heads up match was one of the best matches at the WSOPME in a long time, but all we saw were the knock out blows by Eastgate. I followed the coverage online and really wanted to know what happened over the course of the 100+ hands that were played. Who was out flopping who? Who was making great laydowns and great reads and value bets? All we saw was Demidov kinda donk off his stack with 2 pair twice, when in reality he had a really close match that ended as a result of a couple of big overaggressive plays. What were those plays?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The heads up match was one of the best matches at the WSOPME in a long time, but all we saw were the knock out blows by Eastgate. I followed the coverage online and really wanted to know what happened over the course of the 100+ hands that were played. Who was out flopping who? Who was making great laydowns and great reads and value bets? All we saw was Demidov kinda donk off his stack with 2 pair twice, when in reality he had a really close match that ended as a result of a couple of big overaggressive plays. What were those plays?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mathers</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160620</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mathers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll narrow it down, it wasn&#039;t the established pros with proven tournament success.</description>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160619</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. OK, I&#039;m just gonna guess here. (I don&#039;t even know who they had in the streaming broadcast stable.)

Phil Hellmuth?
Tiffany Michelle?
Russ Hamilton?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. OK, I&#8217;m just gonna guess here. (I don&#8217;t even know who they had in the streaming broadcast stable.)</p>
<p>Phil Hellmuth?<br />
Tiffany Michelle?<br />
Russ Hamilton?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mathers</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160618</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mathers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall a couple of people mentioning that problem. 

The commentary would have been better if certain people weren&#039;t on it, and will try to leave it at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall a couple of people mentioning that problem. </p>
<p>The commentary would have been better if certain people weren&#8217;t on it, and will try to leave it at that.</p>
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		<title>By: ben matlock</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160617</link>
		<dc:creator>ben matlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eastgate was running extremely well.  He had some monster hands.  AA, KK, 55 and catching a set, 33 and flopping a set, A5 for the wheel.

I was extremely disappointed in the ESPN coverage.  I actually listened to a majority of the audio from both of the tables on the site you linked.. Bluff&#039;s site.  Craig Marquis, Daniel Negreanu, and Barry Greenstein did an awesome job commentating.  

I understand that ESPN can&#039;t show every hand, but after watching their coverage, you had ZERO context for what was going on.  You didn&#039;t see the big up and down swings between the 2 heads up.  You had no clue how long it lasted and how good the poker playing was.  If you listened to the audio broadcast, it seemed that every 3rd or 4th hand was getting raised and reraised.  It was phenomenal.  The end looked so boring to me.  I&#039;d love to see it on a pay per view live next time. 

I guess it&#039;s like trying to compare a book to the movie.  The book is always better because it goes into so much more detail.  There just isn&#039;t enough time in a movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eastgate was running extremely well.  He had some monster hands.  AA, KK, 55 and catching a set, 33 and flopping a set, A5 for the wheel.</p>
<p>I was extremely disappointed in the ESPN coverage.  I actually listened to a majority of the audio from both of the tables on the site you linked.. Bluff&#8217;s site.  Craig Marquis, Daniel Negreanu, and Barry Greenstein did an awesome job commentating.  </p>
<p>I understand that ESPN can&#8217;t show every hand, but after watching their coverage, you had ZERO context for what was going on.  You didn&#8217;t see the big up and down swings between the 2 heads up.  You had no clue how long it lasted and how good the poker playing was.  If you listened to the audio broadcast, it seemed that every 3rd or 4th hand was getting raised and reraised.  It was phenomenal.  The end looked so boring to me.  I&#8217;d love to see it on a pay per view live next time. </p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s like trying to compare a book to the movie.  The book is always better because it goes into so much more detail.  There just isn&#8217;t enough time in a movie.</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160616</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I totally enjoyed the coverage I heard -- Nick Geber, Daniel Negreanu, and Lacey Jones. Great mix of voices, personality, and insight. 

I listened for about an hour or two during the heads-up. Robert Williamson and others sat in with Nick for the broadcast the day before, I believe.

(It now occurs to me that listening via laptop in the Penn &amp; Teller Theater makes me like one of those old men you used to see at baseball and football games, watching the game right in front of them on TV, and drowning out the raw, vibrant sounds with ones run through earphones. Yikes.)

However, I turned it off at one point when it seemed to be on repeat. At first they seemed to be just a few minutes behind the action, and then it seemed like 20 or 30 minutes behind it, and before long I realized I was listening to the same words I had just heard. 

Technical glitch, maybe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I totally enjoyed the coverage I heard &#8212; Nick Geber, Daniel Negreanu, and Lacey Jones. Great mix of voices, personality, and insight. </p>
<p>I listened for about an hour or two during the heads-up. Robert Williamson and others sat in with Nick for the broadcast the day before, I believe.</p>
<p>(It now occurs to me that listening via laptop in the Penn &#038; Teller Theater makes me like one of those old men you used to see at baseball and football games, watching the game right in front of them on TV, and drowning out the raw, vibrant sounds with ones run through earphones. Yikes.)</p>
<p>However, I turned it off at one point when it seemed to be on repeat. At first they seemed to be just a few minutes behind the action, and then it seemed like 20 or 30 minutes behind it, and before long I realized I was listening to the same words I had just heard. </p>
<p>Technical glitch, maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mathers</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160615</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mathers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You were able to listen to the entire final table this year.</description>
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		<title>By: TR</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160614</link>
		<dc:creator>TR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was very disappointed with the coverage. When nearly every hand shown is someone&#039;s final hand, there isn&#039;t much suspense as you know someone is going to get knocked out or crippled. It felt to me like a WPT style telecast with more flair than poker.

I would have much rather have it broken in 3 or 4 1 hour episodes because it clearly needed at least 3 hours and probably 4 hours to show any real poker and do it justice.

For me the gold standard is still the WSOP 06 Pay Per View event where it took forever and no hold cards where shown but they showed every hand. If they are going to just broadcast the highlights, they really need to bring back the entire broadcast either online or payperview.

Who is the best player from the final table? I don&#039;t feel like I saw enough hands to have any idea and all I do know is Eastgate was running really really well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was very disappointed with the coverage. When nearly every hand shown is someone&#8217;s final hand, there isn&#8217;t much suspense as you know someone is going to get knocked out or crippled. It felt to me like a WPT style telecast with more flair than poker.</p>
<p>I would have much rather have it broken in 3 or 4 1 hour episodes because it clearly needed at least 3 hours and probably 4 hours to show any real poker and do it justice.</p>
<p>For me the gold standard is still the WSOP 06 Pay Per View event where it took forever and no hold cards where shown but they showed every hand. If they are going to just broadcast the highlights, they really need to bring back the entire broadcast either online or payperview.</p>
<p>Who is the best player from the final table? I don&#8217;t feel like I saw enough hands to have any idea and all I do know is Eastgate was running really really well.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mathers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Mathers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darus mentioned he had coaching from Eric Lynch Poker XFactor.  I believe the Roy Winston (?) &amp; company coaching appeared to  hurt him early on.  At least he was able to buckle down after dropping to ~5m to get back into contention and get a top 3 finish.

I don&#039;t have all the answers either, and yes it would&#039;ve been nice to see KK&#039;s elimination hand.  Maybe if ESPN didn&#039;t appear to talk down to the casual TV poker fan you&#039;d see some of these things.  But in the grand scheme of things poker is such small potatoes to them, and they&#039;ve got a great formula working for them right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darus mentioned he had coaching from Eric Lynch Poker XFactor.  I believe the Roy Winston (?) &amp; company coaching appeared to  hurt him early on.  At least he was able to buckle down after dropping to ~5m to get back into contention and get a top 3 finish.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have all the answers either, and yes it would&#8217;ve been nice to see KK&#8217;s elimination hand.  Maybe if ESPN didn&#8217;t appear to talk down to the casual TV poker fan you&#8217;d see some of these things.  But in the grand scheme of things poker is such small potatoes to them, and they&#8217;ve got a great formula working for them right now.</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS Kevin, I&#039;m not at all contending that I have all the answers for how to properly broadcast poker ... I&#039;m just looking at what I witnessed live and on TV, trying to factor in some real ratings and logistical issues, in a discussion that perhaps might stumble on some very doable improvements from v 1.0 to v 2.0 of the final-final table.

But to get there, you (read: the WSOP and ESPN) should probably have a vision of what you think you might be doing for v 8.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS Kevin, I&#8217;m not at all contending that I have all the answers for how to properly broadcast poker &#8230; I&#8217;m just looking at what I witnessed live and on TV, trying to factor in some real ratings and logistical issues, in a discussion that perhaps might stumble on some very doable improvements from v 1.0 to v 2.0 of the final-final table.</p>
<p>But to get there, you (read: the WSOP and ESPN) should probably have a vision of what you think you might be doing for v 8.0.</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darus Suharto was clearly the worst player at the table, the most unprepared, and the most uneasy going in. He probably woulda benefited from some of that coaching I poo-pooed a month or two ago.
:)

I&#039;m not faulting Norman Chad at all -- I think he does a great job. But having a third in there to discuss occasionally some higher-level strategy (in a way that doesn&#039;t lose the casual viewer) would do well. Seeing them check down a hand would also provide an opportunity to explain why people would check down (surely someone had a raising hand, right?) ... because by working collectively, they all guarantee themselves a $300k jump in the money. Stuff like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darus Suharto was clearly the worst player at the table, the most unprepared, and the most uneasy going in. He probably woulda benefited from some of that coaching I poo-pooed a month or two ago.<br />
 <img src='http://pokerati.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not faulting Norman Chad at all &#8212; I think he does a great job. But having a third in there to discuss occasionally some higher-level strategy (in a way that doesn&#8217;t lose the casual viewer) would do well. Seeing them check down a hand would also provide an opportunity to explain why people would check down (surely someone had a raising hand, right?) &#8230; because by working collectively, they all guarantee themselves a $300k jump in the money. Stuff like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160606</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have yet to see it.  Not sure there is much need after reading all the posts and comments on here. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have yet to see it.  Not sure there is much need after reading all the posts and comments on here. <img src='http://pokerati.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mathers</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/11/12/so-lets-talk-poker-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-160605</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mathers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Show me an instance where a 3-way hand that&#039;s checked down and a player was eliminated.  If KK won the hand, maybe you&#039;d see that.  They did show the other two hands Kelly Kim was involved in, and he was also portrayed way better than Darus Suharto.  All you saw of him was him repeatedly donking off his chips.  One thing I&#039;ve seen repeatedly from Norman was his repeated mention on how many BB&#039;s a player has, and actually discussing some sort of strategy.

Also in a non-major golf tournament, you&#039;re only seeing those on the leaderboard in the last half of their resepective round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Show me an instance where a 3-way hand that&#8217;s checked down and a player was eliminated.  If KK won the hand, maybe you&#8217;d see that.  They did show the other two hands Kelly Kim was involved in, and he was also portrayed way better than Darus Suharto.  All you saw of him was him repeatedly donking off his chips.  One thing I&#8217;ve seen repeatedly from Norman was his repeated mention on how many BB&#8217;s a player has, and actually discussing some sort of strategy.</p>
<p>Also in a non-major golf tournament, you&#8217;re only seeing those on the leaderboard in the last half of their resepective round.</p>
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