RE: Paul Leggett Speaks (At Length) about Tokwiro, AP, UB, Kahnawake, Joe Norton

by , Nov 13, 2008 | 8:13 am

Of particular interest to me in this series of Tokwiro-sponsored videos was Leggett’s confirmation that no one was or will be legally prosecuted in the Absolute Poker scandal.

When the perpetrator was discovered in the AP insider cheating scandal, he was given protection from prosecution in exchange for information about the crime. If he told Tokwiro exactly how he got the hole card information, his name would not be released to the public and no legal action would be pursued. Leggett said that the Kahnawake Gaming Commission still reserves the right to prosecute if they so choose, but Tokwiro will not.

Leggett noted that the $800K that was stolen during the crime was still in the cheater’s online account and thus confiscated by Tokwiro to repay customers. However, Tokwiro had to pay an additional $800K out-of-pocket in interest to those customers. I guess the perpetrator’s inside info was worth nearly a million bucks…

Also interesting was the specific mention of Scott Tom in order to clear his name. Leggett said that he was only implicated because his IP address was used by the cheater. Really? So, does this make AJ Green a.k.a. AJ Grimard the one and only perpetrator, as no effort was made to clear him? And I suppose the lessons learned in the AP scandal better prepared Tokwiro to identify the problems in the UB scandal, not needing any information from Russ Hamilton and allowing prosecution in that case.

This is discussed in the video below (Part 2, Section 2) and starts at the beginning:


  • Kevin Mathers

    It looks like someone doesn’t want these videos seen to the public. When I click on a link, I get a “This video is private” message.

  • WTF!?! They took down all the vids!

    Maybe they are just moving them somewhere less Kafka-esque?

  • I get a “This Video Is No Longer Available” message. Very confusing … I thought this was the best, most semi-transparent thing Tokwiro had done since it all broke.

  • Kevin Mathers

    I didn’t watch all the episodes, but I agree that taking down something that’s supposed to help your cause isn’t a good idea.

  • Hey, I’m still on a “give’m a chance” kick for at least another couple days. Maybe just a techni-logistical glitch? Either that or YouTube couldn’t handle the massive influx of views compliments of Pokerati readers? Yeah, that has to be it …

  • Very strange that the videos are being taken down. C’mon, Tokwiro! It’s really tough to pull for you in any way when you can’t be transparent, even with the publication of a staged interview.

  • This video embed had to be re-cut-and-paste, so that suggests they made some edits in this video from whence we first saw it.

  • “fight hard to win players back” — translation: take out tons of ads in CardPlayer and Bluff.

  • Kevin Mathers

    In which clip did Leggett drop the victim card?

  • Ooh, I see a physical discomfort foot tell at about 6:08! He did not like that question about Absolute’s deleting files!

    NOTE: I really do dig those ads AP put on TV with the cards running around on the streets and in alleys.