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	<title>Comments on: UB and Tokwiro issue statements on UB software issue</title>
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		<title>By: CzechGrazer</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/12/23/tokwiro-issues-statement-on-ub-software-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-162734</link>
		<dc:creator>CzechGrazer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that would concern me greatly if I played at AP or UB (which I don&#039;t). Their &quot;fix&quot; most likely involved, if the hand were replayed, Hellmuth still winning the pot due to the other player&#039;s disconnect and Hellmuth still not showing his cards (I know the site &quot;kinda&quot; showed them)... but it would have made it clear the other player disconnected, would not have shown his cards, but still lost the hand. I have a real problem with any site that awards a pot against someone who is disconnnected for a &quot;millisecond&quot;. Add that to the list of problems these two sites have.

If you go back and look at their statemnets, they seem to make no apologies for awarding the pot based on the players&#039; mili-second disconnect. Just the mixed up (and contradictory) way the site did it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that would concern me greatly if I played at AP or UB (which I don&#8217;t). Their &#8220;fix&#8221; most likely involved, if the hand were replayed, Hellmuth still winning the pot due to the other player&#8217;s disconnect and Hellmuth still not showing his cards (I know the site &#8220;kinda&#8221; showed them)&#8230; but it would have made it clear the other player disconnected, would not have shown his cards, but still lost the hand. I have a real problem with any site that awards a pot against someone who is disconnnected for a &#8220;millisecond&#8221;. Add that to the list of problems these two sites have.</p>
<p>If you go back and look at their statemnets, they seem to make no apologies for awarding the pot based on the players&#8217; mili-second disconnect. Just the mixed up (and contradictory) way the site did it.</p>
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		<title>By: zero2hero</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/12/23/tokwiro-issues-statement-on-ub-software-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-162731</link>
		<dc:creator>zero2hero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta go with dan on this one.  I still play at stars and tilt, and despite a rather massive downswing on tilt, I still feel the games are on the square.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta go with dan on this one.  I still play at stars and tilt, and despite a rather massive downswing on tilt, I still feel the games are on the square.</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/12/23/tokwiro-issues-statement-on-ub-software-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-162649</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***Only an idiot would play poker online at this point.***

You mean &quot;at AP/UB/Cereus or any unknown sketchy site&quot;, right? I have 99.9999999999999 percent confidence that the heads-up matches I like to play on PokerStars and Full Tilt are completely legit and collusion-free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***Only an idiot would play poker online at this point.***</p>
<p>You mean &#8220;at AP/UB/Cereus or any unknown sketchy site&#8221;, right? I have 99.9999999999999 percent confidence that the heads-up matches I like to play on PokerStars and Full Tilt are completely legit and collusion-free.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike G</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/12/23/tokwiro-issues-statement-on-ub-software-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-162616</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most implausible explanation ever.  The hand went to the wrong player because the game and the software are fixed.  Only an idiot would play poker online at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most implausible explanation ever.  The hand went to the wrong player because the game and the software are fixed.  Only an idiot would play poker online at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2008/12/23/tokwiro-issues-statement-on-ub-software-issues/comment-page-1/#comment-162566</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Leggett just swung and barely got piece of it for a foul ball ... strike 2-and-a-half.

(But honestly, isn&#039;t the &quot;millisecond disconnect&quot; the only plausible explanation?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Leggett just swung and barely got piece of it for a foul ball &#8230; strike 2-and-a-half.</p>
<p>(But honestly, isn&#8217;t the &#8220;millisecond disconnect&#8221; the only plausible explanation?)</p>
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