Comments on: Phil Hellmuth talks about “Potshipper” scandal

By: Kevin Mathers

Kevin Mathers — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:25:27 +0000

From Paul Phillips blog in 2005:
http://extempore.livejournal.com/90537.html

Interesting that it also involved a connection issue.

By: DanM

DanM — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:20:17 +0000

Shronk, I’m not sure I recall the JOPKE episode you’re referring to. I did find this reference, however:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jopke

By: shronk

shronk — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:33:03 +0000

Dan, Phil’s first online poker scandal was clearly the “JOPKE” episode.

By: shronk

shronk — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:31:46 +0000

“If there weren’t hand rankings involved, I’d win every one.”

By: Pokermario

Pokermario — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:16:47 +0000

I don’t believe for one minute that this has happened hundreds of times?!? and what no one else has complained? and if they had wouldn’t this problem have been looked into a long time ago

By: Linda

Linda — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:01:01 +0000

Happy New Year guys…

By: Lone Rhino

Lone Rhino — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:29:27 +0000

I haver NEVER seen a pot shipped to the wrong player on any online site for the past three years.

Phil Hellmuth is a huge assclown. And a liar too.

By: TBPauly

TBPauly — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:24:21 +0000

First time poster here…listening to Hellmuth’s comments about the UB flap now.

Needless to say, the controversy doesn’t do anything to boost UB’s and Hellmuth’s cred. Will be steering clear from UB and Absolute Poker for a long time.

By: Short-Stacked Shamus

Short-Stacked Shamus — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:12:12 +0000

The casually-made “this has happened 100 times” claim was more than a little odd. (Not to mention incredibly lacking in self-awareness. The usual with PH.)

Was also curious to hear both Kroon & Duke say this had happened to them on other sites, and Duke referring to it as a consequence of a “bug” that is part of (some? all?) other sites’ software, too.

Of course, neither Kroon nor Duke sound like they are talking about a “bug” but rather instances when a player left the table & disconnected from the site in the middle of a hand that they subsequently would have won had the player remained put.

By: Kevin Mathers

Kevin Mathers — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:52:39 +0000

I chalk it up to Hellmuth throwing out a hyperbolic statement at the wrong time.

By: DanM

DanM — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:44:25 +0000

Right. Wouldn’t 100 improper pot shippings be a red flag to someone that the software has a pretty big error in it?

By: Kevin Mathers

Kevin Mathers — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:43:26 +0000

Kroon’s been way past the aspiring part for ages (I believe he’s also from Madison, WI.)

When you say that this has happened to him 100 times before is one of the most clueless statements I’ve heard in quite some time.

By: DanM

DanM — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:33:56 +0000

Annie Duke is the only one who sounds like a concerned human being. Kroon sounds like he’s an aspiring UB yes-man … and Hellmuth comes off like a clueless ass who, accurately, doesn’t care about being a clueless ass.

Annie seems like she’s trying hard to make things right for the fallen company she loves. Phil Hellmuth seems like he only cares about #1 — and anything that ever goes wrong is always somebody else’s fault and woe is him. If he were president of the U.S. he would probably blame Iraq for not having WMB’s after making us invade.

Just my quick read on the situation.

By: DanM

DanM — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:23:43 +0000

“Because it was Phil, it was Ultimate Bet, the 60 Minutes, and all this other BS.”

I wonder if Phil would be able to say this to the face of some of the people whose lives were ruined by “all this other BS”. The avoidance of the real issue and his hubris is stomach-turning.