Comments on: My 2009 WSOP Fantasy Picks http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/ Texas Hold'em and Las Vegas WSOP Poker Blog, now with PLO too! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Kevin Mathers http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167549 Kevin Mathers Tue, 26 May 2009 20:22:39 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167549 Here's the article over at espn.com: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4199801&name=poker Here’s the article over at espn.com:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4199801&name=poker

]]> By: Easycure http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167466 Easycure Sat, 23 May 2009 15:30:00 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167466 Chad Brown at #50 is a steal. Chad Brown at #50 is a steal.

]]> By: DanM http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167459 DanM Fri, 22 May 2009 22:47:51 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167459 Mark Seif's take on his own team: <blockquote>Team Iwannapress, This team is a lock unless: 1. Howard takes a dive to win 10k from me. :)) 2. Gus Hansen does not show up for the series because he is winning too much online. 3. David Benyamine does not show up for the series because he is losing too much online. 4. Patrik Antonious - not sure but there was a comment made I did not hear regarding him (hope he's okay) being a bad pick 5. Tony G. fails to fix the events by virtue of his 10,000 reporters/spys on hand 6. Ivey wins 3 events. 7. Chris Bjorin cashes in 10 events 8. Eli Elezra wins an event 9. Hellmuth wins two bracelets in the 1k buy-ins 10. Cunningham wins the main event 11. I win an event, Lindgren comes in second, Hevad Khan comes in third, and Justin Bonomo comes in 4th</blockquote> Tony G line made me laugh. Mark Seif’s take on his own team:

Team Iwannapress,

This team is a lock unless:
1. Howard takes a dive to win 10k from me. :) )
2. Gus Hansen does not show up for the series because he is winning too much online.
3. David Benyamine does not show up for the series because he is losing too much online.
4. Patrik Antonious – not sure but there was a comment made I did not hear regarding him (hope he’s okay) being a bad pick
5. Tony G. fails to fix the events by virtue of his 10,000 reporters/spys on hand
6. Ivey wins 3 events.
7. Chris Bjorin cashes in 10 events
8. Eli Elezra wins an event
9. Hellmuth wins two bracelets in the 1k buy-ins
10. Cunningham wins the main event
11. I win an event, Lindgren comes in second, Hevad Khan comes in third, and Justin Bonomo comes in 4th

Tony G line made me laugh.

]]> By: Kevin Mathers http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167456 Kevin Mathers Fri, 22 May 2009 21:56:19 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167456 I'd have considered Kathy before Humberto. I’d have considered Kathy before Humberto.

]]> By: Poker Shrink http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167454 Poker Shrink Fri, 22 May 2009 21:46:34 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167454 I think the last three teams are the nuts: #1 Team Dennis Phillips, #2 Team Bluff and #3 Wicked Chops (although how a WC team doesn't have at least one naked women is oxymoronic). I think the last three teams are the nuts: #1 Team Dennis Phillips, #2 Team Bluff and #3 Wicked Chops (although how a WC team doesn’t have at least one naked women is oxymoronic).

]]> By: DanM http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167453 DanM Fri, 22 May 2009 21:46:01 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167453 Murmur ... like your picks! I've heard of four of them. (I actually gave Neil Channing some real thought.) BTW, Kathy Liebert was on my list, too ... but just kept pushing her back. Think she woulda made a good one? Murmur … like your picks! I’ve heard of four of them.

(I actually gave Neil Channing some real thought.)

BTW, Kathy Liebert was on my list, too … but just kept pushing her back. Think she woulda made a good one?

]]> By: Kevin Mathers http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167452 Kevin Mathers Fri, 22 May 2009 21:41:32 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167452 Game on. Here's my picks: Yevgeniy Timoshenko Randy Holland Christian Harder Thayer Rasmussen Neil Channing Sebastian Ruthenburg Justin "Boosted J" Smith Jason Potter Game on.

Here’s my picks:

Yevgeniy Timoshenko
Randy Holland
Christian Harder
Thayer Rasmussen
Neil Channing
Sebastian Ruthenburg
Justin “Boosted J” Smith
Jason Potter

]]> By: DanM http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167451 DanM Fri, 22 May 2009 21:21:35 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167451 I think a lot of people might take action on that. In fact, I'll put up 100 that your team doesn't beat 6 or more. Done deal. I think a lot of people might take action on that. In fact, I’ll put up 100 that your team doesn’t beat 6 or more.

Done deal.

]]> By: Kevin Mathers http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167450 Kevin Mathers Fri, 22 May 2009 21:16:57 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167450 Looking at the rosters, I'm sure I could pick from the players not selected and beat at least 6 of the 11 teams listed. I'm not as rolled as Daniel, but I'd put $100 on it. Looking at the rosters, I’m sure I could pick from the players not selected and beat at least 6 of the 11 teams listed. I’m not as rolled as Daniel, but I’d put $100 on it.

]]> By: DanM http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167449 DanM Fri, 22 May 2009 21:10:18 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167449 Negreanu was offering up $10k wagers on his team. Negreanu was offering up $10k wagers on his team.

]]> By: BJ Nemeth http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167448 BJ Nemeth Fri, 22 May 2009 21:05:17 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167448 I'd save the drop for the first week of the Series, unless you think other teams are about to make a change. I’d save the drop for the first week of the Series, unless you think other teams are about to make a change.

]]> By: BJ Nemeth http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167447 BJ Nemeth Fri, 22 May 2009 21:04:17 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167447 I assume you have to make the money first before any of the other points kick in, right? It seems ludicrous to give out 4 points for making the Top 50 of $50K HORSE, for example. Final tables and top-3 finishes is where it's at; racking up top 50 cashes will amount to nothing more than a tiebreaker. But I have a feeling Dan doesn't want to take my bet of Men vs. Nenad or Men vs. J-Little. :) I still think your pick of Hellmuth was a good one. But in my opinion, Gavin Smith has the best overall team. I assume you have to make the money first before any of the other points kick in, right? It seems ludicrous to give out 4 points for making the Top 50 of $50K HORSE, for example.

Final tables and top-3 finishes is where it’s at; racking up top 50 cashes will amount to nothing more than a tiebreaker. But I have a feeling Dan doesn’t want to take my bet of Men vs. Nenad or Men vs. J-Little. :)

I still think your pick of Hellmuth was a good one. But in my opinion, Gavin Smith has the best overall team.

]]> By: Kevin Mathers http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167446 Kevin Mathers Fri, 22 May 2009 21:04:05 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167446 I'm assuming he'll be doing mostly holdem, I'm sure I can think of an all-around player if needed momentarily. Edit: Kirill Gerasimov I’m assuming he’ll be doing mostly holdem, I’m sure I can think of an all-around player if needed momentarily.

Edit: Kirill Gerasimov

]]> By: DanM http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167445 DanM Fri, 22 May 2009 21:01:22 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167445 are you positive he's playing in many events? and is he all hold'em? i really might take your suggestion ... but am not positive it's the right time to use my 1 drop. but your yevgeniy notion definitely has me thinking ... are you positive he’s playing in many events? and is he all hold’em? i really might take your suggestion … but am not positive it’s the right time to use my 1 drop. but your yevgeniy notion definitely has me thinking …

]]> By: Kevin Mathers http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167444 Kevin Mathers Fri, 22 May 2009 20:59:10 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167444 I'd drop Men for Yevgeniy Timoshenko in a second if it was my team. I’d drop Men for Yevgeniy Timoshenko in a second if it was my team.

]]> By: DanM http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167443 DanM Fri, 22 May 2009 20:57:23 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167443 We also are allowed 1 drop during the WSOP. So really, technically I could drop him now for an unpicked player like ... um ... like ... who's left? I think that's just about all the poker players except for maybe Clonie. We also are allowed 1 drop during the WSOP. So really, technically I could drop him now for an unpicked player like … um … like … who’s left? I think that’s just about all the poker players except for maybe Clonie.

]]> By: DanM http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167442 DanM Fri, 22 May 2009 20:55:23 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167442 Yes, I really think Men was my worst pick. I don't know who suggested him to me. Probably Tom. Here are the scoring criteria: Here's the scoring breakdown: 1 point for making the money 2 points for the top 50 5 points for top 20 10 points for the final table, then: 1 additional point for ninth 2 additional points for eighth 4 additional points for seventh 6 additional points for sixth 10 additional points for fifth 15 additional points for fourth 20 additional points for third 30 additional points for second 40 additional points for first Double points will be awarded for all $10,000 events, 40K special and the $50,000 HORSE event. Yes, I really think Men was my worst pick. I don’t know who suggested him to me. Probably Tom.

Here are the scoring criteria:

Here’s the scoring breakdown:
1 point for making the money
2 points for the top 50
5 points for top 20
10 points for the final table, then:
1 additional point for ninth
2 additional points for eighth
4 additional points for seventh
6 additional points for sixth
10 additional points for fifth
15 additional points for fourth
20 additional points for third
30 additional points for second
40 additional points for first

Double points will be awarded for all $10,000 events, 40K special and
the $50,000 HORSE event.

]]> By: BJ Nemeth http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167441 BJ Nemeth Fri, 22 May 2009 20:52:53 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167441 Mark -- I don't fault anyone else (except Dan) for picking Men Nguyen, but I wouldn't want him on my team. If I won the contest because of his results, that wouldn't be a satisfying victory for me. Here are a few of the players (from the fourth round or below) that I would happily pick before Men Nguyen: Nenad Medic, Jeff Madsen, Matt Brady, Jonathan Little, Nam Le, Tom Schneider, and Vivek Rajkumar. There are definitely others, but these are the ones that I personally consider to be automatic picks ahead of Men Nguyen. FYI, Nguyen barely eked out a profit on his own results at the '06 WSOP, and hasn't had a really good showing since '03 when he won 2 bracelets with 5 Top-Four finishes. (But that was before huge prelim fields, and his cashes that year came in events with 78-135 entrants.) I might do a side bet with Dan, if he's interested. Nenad Medic or Jonathan Little against Men Nguyen. (Dan gets to pick my guy out of those two.) Before we put money on it, I just need to know the scoring criteria -- POY points, money earned, or some other point system? I know it's just a fantasy draft, but real general managers know that character matters. I wouldn't pick Men Nguyen for the same reason that he doesn't have a major poker sponsorship. Mark — I don’t fault anyone else (except Dan) for picking Men Nguyen, but I wouldn’t want him on my team. If I won the contest because of his results, that wouldn’t be a satisfying victory for me.

Here are a few of the players (from the fourth round or below) that I would happily pick before Men Nguyen: Nenad Medic, Jeff Madsen, Matt Brady, Jonathan Little, Nam Le, Tom Schneider, and Vivek Rajkumar. There are definitely others, but these are the ones that I personally consider to be automatic picks ahead of Men Nguyen.

FYI, Nguyen barely eked out a profit on his own results at the ’06 WSOP, and hasn’t had a really good showing since ’03 when he won 2 bracelets with 5 Top-Four finishes. (But that was before huge prelim fields, and his cashes that year came in events with 78-135 entrants.)

I might do a side bet with Dan, if he’s interested. Nenad Medic or Jonathan Little against Men Nguyen. (Dan gets to pick my guy out of those two.) Before we put money on it, I just need to know the scoring criteria — POY points, money earned, or some other point system?

I know it’s just a fantasy draft, but real general managers know that character matters. I wouldn’t pick Men Nguyen for the same reason that he doesn’t have a major poker sponsorship.

]]> By: Mark http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167438 Mark Fri, 22 May 2009 20:10:32 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167438 Here's my roster so far (12 team draft, six rounds ) 1.5 Negreanu 2.8 Scotty 3.5 Kenny Tran 4.8 David Williams 5.5 Men Nguyen :-O All bracelet events count, points based on $ won. Not taking Men because he's a douche is like not taking TO if he falls to you in a football draft. Gotta take value where you find it and pick with your head, not heart. jmo. Here’s my roster so far (12 team draft, six rounds )
1.5 Negreanu
2.8 Scotty
3.5 Kenny Tran
4.8 David Williams
5.5 Men Nguyen :-O

All bracelet events count, points based on $ won. Not taking Men because he’s a douche is like not taking TO if he falls to you in a football draft. Gotta take value where you find it and pick with your head, not heart. jmo.

]]> By: Kevin Mathers http://pokerati.com/2009/05/22/my-2009-wsop-fantasy-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-167436 Kevin Mathers Fri, 22 May 2009 19:56:58 +0000 http://pokerati.com/?p=7959#comment-167436 Considering last year Evdakov had 10 cashes and three top-18 finishes, that'd be a disappointment imo. Considering last year Evdakov had 10 cashes and three top-18 finishes, that’d be a disappointment imo.

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