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		<title>By: Charles brooks</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-175005</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hai..Oh, right â€¦ so the Indians are just saying they want to compete like any other business enterprise, but it may or may not be outside their compacts, which is why they need to work with the state to establish this entity that they would like to have competing for any federally regulated online poker pie.
and also hereâ€™s the letter from Shawn Henry (of the FBI) to Spencer Bachus regarding manipulation in online poker

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onlineuniversalwork.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;part time work &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hai..Oh, right â€¦ so the Indians are just saying they want to compete like any other business enterprise, but it may or may not be outside their compacts, which is why they need to work with the state to establish this entity that they would like to have competing for any federally regulated online poker pie.<br />
and also hereâ€™s the letter from Shawn Henry (of the FBI) to Spencer Bachus regarding manipulation in online poker</p>
<p><a href="http://www.onlineuniversalwork.com" rel="nofollow">part time work </a></p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174607</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the PPA Response to the FBI Letter:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;b&gt;PPA:  FBI Letter Wrongfully Cites Online Poker Myths,
But Underscores Need for Licensing and Regulation&lt;/b&gt;
 
Washington, DC (December 3, 2009) â€“The Poker Players Alliance (PPA), the leading poker grassroots advocacy group with more than one million members nationwide, today challenged statements made during the House Financial Services Committee hearing on  H.R. 2267, the Internet Gambling Regulation, Consumer Protection, and Enforcement Act.  During the hearing, U.S. Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-Ala.) claimed there is potential for criminal activity through online poker by citing a letter written by Shawn Henry, Assistant Director of the Cyber Division of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. 
 
â€œEvery concern the letter raises is better addressed by licensing and regulation than by prohibition,â€ said John Pappas, Executive Director of the Poker Players Alliance.  â€œThe letter misconstrues much about the current state of online poker, but it does so in a way that clearly makes the case for why federal oversight is necessary.â€
 
U.S. Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), the current ranking member and former chairman of the Committee on  Homeland Security, also attended todayâ€™s hearing and said publicly that he is not aware of money laundering or terrorism financing through Internet gaming.  He went on to say that if financial crimes were a legitimate concern, then regulation and oversight as proposed in H.R. 2267 is the best way to mitigate that risk.
 
Additionally, a study commissioned by Wired Safety, the leading Internet safety non-profit, and conducted by Harvard Professor Malcolm Sparrow, was released during the hearing that shows the best way to address the risks of Internet gambling is through regulation.  In his testimony, Dr. Sparrow, who is a former Detective Chief Inspector of the British Police Service with extensive experience in criminal investigation, states that â€œAt a minimum, even an imperfect legalization and regulatory regime for online gambling would give Americans much more protection than they have now.â€  The report includes important findings on issues of gambling by minors and the potential for criminal and fraudulent behavior, in which the study concludes that improved technology and enforcement mechanisms that are currently available are more effective than an outright ban.
 
â€œLicensing and regulation is the most protective measure we can take to ensure the online community can be properly monitored while maintaining our internet freedom,â€ Pappas concluded. 
 
A detailed response to the letter can be found on the PPAâ€™s website.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the PPA Response to the FBI Letter:</p>
<blockquote><p>
<b>PPA:  FBI Letter Wrongfully Cites Online Poker Myths,<br />
But Underscores Need for Licensing and Regulation</b></p>
<p>Washington, DC (December 3, 2009) â€“The Poker Players Alliance (PPA), the leading poker grassroots advocacy group with more than one million members nationwide, today challenged statements made during the House Financial Services Committee hearing on  H.R. 2267, the Internet Gambling Regulation, Consumer Protection, and Enforcement Act.  During the hearing, U.S. Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-Ala.) claimed there is potential for criminal activity through online poker by citing a letter written by Shawn Henry, Assistant Director of the Cyber Division of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. </p>
<p>â€œEvery concern the letter raises is better addressed by licensing and regulation than by prohibition,â€ said John Pappas, Executive Director of the Poker Players Alliance.  â€œThe letter misconstrues much about the current state of online poker, but it does so in a way that clearly makes the case for why federal oversight is necessary.â€</p>
<p>U.S. Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), the current ranking member and former chairman of the Committee on  Homeland Security, also attended todayâ€™s hearing and said publicly that he is not aware of money laundering or terrorism financing through Internet gaming.  He went on to say that if financial crimes were a legitimate concern, then regulation and oversight as proposed in H.R. 2267 is the best way to mitigate that risk.</p>
<p>Additionally, a study commissioned by Wired Safety, the leading Internet safety non-profit, and conducted by Harvard Professor Malcolm Sparrow, was released during the hearing that shows the best way to address the risks of Internet gambling is through regulation.  In his testimony, Dr. Sparrow, who is a former Detective Chief Inspector of the British Police Service with extensive experience in criminal investigation, states that â€œAt a minimum, even an imperfect legalization and regulatory regime for online gambling would give Americans much more protection than they have now.â€  The report includes important findings on issues of gambling by minors and the potential for criminal and fraudulent behavior, in which the study concludes that improved technology and enforcement mechanisms that are currently available are more effective than an outright ban.</p>
<p>â€œLicensing and regulation is the most protective measure we can take to ensure the online community can be properly monitored while maintaining our internet freedom,â€ Pappas concluded. </p>
<p>A detailed response to the letter can be found on the PPAâ€™s website.  </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174605</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, it &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; a bullet, too. This meeting admittedly kicked my ass a bit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, it <i>was</i> a bullet, too. This meeting admittedly kicked my ass a bit!</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174604</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job, Dan. This was a great read...much better than actually watching the thing. Thanks for taking the bullet on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job, Dan. This was a great read&#8230;much better than actually watching the thing. Thanks for taking the bullet on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174603</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shawn Henry of the FBI ...

Particularly Interesting to see the FBI addressing issues of collusion and bots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shawn Henry of the FBI &#8230;</p>
<p>Particularly Interesting to see the FBI addressing issues of collusion and bots.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mathers</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174601</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mathers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, here&#039;s the letter from &lt;a href=&quot;http://republicans.financialservices.house.gov/images/11-13-09%20dept.%20of%20justice%20internet%20gambling%20response.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shawn Henry (of the FBI) to Spencer Bachus&lt;/a&gt; regarding manipulation in online poker:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, here&#8217;s the letter from <a href="http://republicans.financialservices.house.gov/images/11-13-09%20dept.%20of%20justice%20internet%20gambling%20response.pdf" rel="nofollow">Shawn Henry (of the FBI) to Spencer Bachus</a> regarding manipulation in online poker:</p>
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		<title>By: Short-Stacked Shamus</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174599</link>
		<dc:creator>Short-Stacked Shamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rep. Sherman is right when he says â€œYou have to leave your house to lose your house.â€  Happens to me constantly, which is why I got GPS.

Thanks for the play-by-play, Dan.  It was like being there, while sometimes switching over to Andy Griffith, The Flinstones, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rep. Sherman is right when he says â€œYou have to leave your house to lose your house.â€  Happens to me constantly, which is why I got GPS.</p>
<p>Thanks for the play-by-play, Dan.  It was like being there, while sometimes switching over to Andy Griffith, The Flinstones, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mathers</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174598</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mathers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Lee is a Republican from New York.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Lee is a Republican from New York.</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174596</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really though ... TD&#039;s are the ultimate benevolent dictators, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really though &#8230; TD&#8217;s are the ultimate benevolent dictators, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mathers</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174595</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mathers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure the Youbet guy is also concerned because of Betfair owning one of the other major online horsracing sites in the US, TVG.  Also, they&#039;re worried about the overblocking thing, which is what got the NTRA and greyhound track owners to write their letters to Bernacke/Geithner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure the Youbet guy is also concerned because of Betfair owning one of the other major online horsracing sites in the US, TVG.  Also, they&#8217;re worried about the overblocking thing, which is what got the NTRA and greyhound track owners to write their letters to Bernacke/Geithner.</p>
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		<title>By: Gydyon</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174594</link>
		<dc:creator>Gydyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TD in Chief?  No way.  Everyone knows Savage is weak on national security.  Even if Day 2 of your hospital stay is smooth and has lots of play....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TD in Chief?  No way.  Everyone knows Savage is weak on national security.  Even if Day 2 of your hospital stay is smooth and has lots of play&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174593</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree ... he came off as more smarmy than all the rest. Howard Lederer woulda given better testimony, but I think we all understand why he couldn&#039;t be there today.

Wonder if they wanted or didn&#039;t want Mitch Garber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree &#8230; he came off as more smarmy than all the rest. Howard Lederer woulda given better testimony, but I think we all understand why he couldn&#8217;t be there today.</p>
<p>Wonder if they wanted or didn&#8217;t want Mitch Garber.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174592</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t like the bloke from youbet...he must have mentioned his company about 10 times during his dreary speech. A shame an opportunity to impress people was wasted by this shameless self-publicist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t like the bloke from youbet&#8230;he must have mentioned his company about 10 times during his dreary speech. A shame an opportunity to impress people was wasted by this shameless self-publicist.</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174591</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! Yes, the USA, I think, would really benefit from a good Tournament Director-in-Chief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! Yes, the USA, I think, would really benefit from a good Tournament Director-in-Chief.</p>
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		<title>By: Mean Gene</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174590</link>
		<dc:creator>Mean Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda makes you long for a benevolent dictatorship, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda makes you long for a benevolent dictatorship, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mathers</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174589</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mathers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More links:

PPA response to FBI letter:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/23533804/FBI-Letter-Response-PPA

Thread in PPA forum on 2+2 regarding hearing:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/152/fight-poker-rights-ppa/hearing-today-dec-3rd-648452/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More links:</p>
<p>PPA response to FBI letter:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/23533804/FBI-Letter-Response-PPA" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/23533804/FBI-Letter-Response-PPA</a></p>
<p>Thread in PPA forum on 2+2 regarding hearing:</p>
<p><a href="http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/152/fight-poker-rights-ppa/hearing-today-dec-3rd-648452/" rel="nofollow">http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/152/fight-poker-rights-ppa/hearing-today-dec-3rd-648452/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mathers</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174588</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mathers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Executive Order 13175 in full:

http://www.epa.gov/fedreg/eo/eo13175.htm

The guy for the Morongo tribe appeared clueless throughout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Executive Order 13175 in full:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.epa.gov/fedreg/eo/eo13175.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.epa.gov/fedreg/eo/eo13175.htm</a></p>
<p>The guy for the Morongo tribe appeared clueless throughout.</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174586</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, i can rewind. it&#039;s semi-streaming. 

here&#039;s the url i&#039;ve got:

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/financialserv/16489/300_financialserv-qwertyuiop_070131.asx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i can rewind. it&#8217;s semi-streaming. </p>
<p>here&#8217;s the url i&#8217;ve got:</p>
<p><a href="http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/financialserv/16489/300_financialserv-qwertyuiop_070131.asx" rel="nofollow">http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/financialserv/16489/300_financialserv-qwertyuiop_070131.asx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Mathers</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174585</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mathers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you able to rewind from the link in your post?

Regarding the bin Laden reference, Bachus didn&#039;t say that.  My apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you able to rewind from the link in your post?</p>
<p>Regarding the bin Laden reference, Bachus didn&#8217;t say that.  My apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: DanM</title>
		<link>http://pokerati.com/2009/12/03/live-blogging-a-relatively-minor-congressional-confab/comment-page-1/#comment-174584</link>
		<dc:creator>DanM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t hear that. I did hear mention of some letter from the FBI ... I can rewind, let me listen closer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t hear that. I did hear mention of some letter from the FBI &#8230; I can rewind, let me listen closer.</p>
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