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December 17, 2009

Kentucky requesting to add names to Internet gambling domain list seizure

From EGRmagazine.com comes word that lawyers from the state of Kentucky filed a motion add additional US citizens and companies to the list of 141 domains the state has been attempting to seize since September 2008. This is an interesting development since a decision from the Kentucky Supreme Court is expected soon from the October hearing appealing KY’s Court of Appeals decision to prevent the seizure. No names or companies were mentioned in the motion, requesting a hearing on January 20 before Franklin County Circuit Court Judge Thomas Wingate, who granted the request for seizure. More details as they become available.

Posted by Kevin Mathers at 7:40 am

October 22, 2009

Kentucky Supreme Court Domain Hearing Today at 11AM ET

The Kentucky Supreme Court will be holding a hearing at 11am ET today regarding the Commonwealth of Kentucky’s efforts in seizing 141 domain names. A live stream of the arguments will be available on the Supreme Court site for those wanting to watch the proceedings, with updates available over at the Poker Players Alliance website. iMEGA’s site should also have their own analysis of the proceedings this afternoon.

For those interested, video of the hearing is now available below:

Posted by Kevin Mathers at 5:42 am

September 13, 2009

Kentucky Domain Case Goes to State Supreme Court

Mark it on your calendars (or just check back here) around October 22. The case of the Governor Beshear and the Commonwealth of Kentucky trying to claim the ability to seize 141 online gaming domains, or “gambling devices” as they were called, to keep them from accessing Kentucky residents will see the halls of the KY Supreme Court next month on an appeal from the Commonwealth.

Many months ago, a group of organizations representing internet freedoms and the rights of online gambling companies won an important appeal in the Kentucky court system, and that victory prohibited the Commonwealth from proceeding with its attempted seizure of those domains. The state promised to appeal to the Supreme Court, and that latest appeal was granted this month. Those fighting the state on the matter include iMEGA (Internet Media Entertainment & Gaming Association), PPA (Poker Players Alliance), ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union), CDT (Center for Democracy and Technology, EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation), Internet Commerce Association, eBay, and Network Solutions. (Can we win on number of appellees alone?)

According to iMEGA’s announcement:

The Supreme Court has set oral argument in Commonwealth of Kentucky v. IMEGA, et al for 11 a.m. on Thursday October 22, 2009 in the Supreme Court courtroom. The order allots 15 minutes for each side.

“We’ve been waiting for this for a long time, and we’re going to win again,” said Joe Brennan Jr., iMEGA’s chairman. “From the beginning, Kentucky law has clearly supported our position, and a win in the State Supreme Court will put the final emphasis on that.”

Posted by California Jen at 7:13 am

July 24, 2009

Mid-Air Poker Blogging, Online Play

Pardon the unprofessional nanny-nanny boo-boo to Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear, but I am currently in your airspace — and therefore your jurisdiction — playing a sit-n-go on PokerStars. (UPDATE: Or at least I was; never mind, out in 8th.)

Anyhow, part of the point of this post is a just-because-I-can: First time I have ever played on an airplane — like while we’re actually flying in the air! — and I think that’s pretty darn neato. (And am thankful that AirTran, so far, has not blocked PokerStars, Full Tilt, Pokerati, Wicked Chops, or … actually, I’m kinda afraid to check anything by the Bang Brothers.)

See what I’m getting at here? Me neither … but I swear it’s relevant, because technically I’m in Kentucky right now, theoretically I could be in Washington State, and no matter what the state of the UIGEA, I’m pretty sure there is not proper justification for shooting this plane down.

Anyhow, crap, I gotta finish up this post because I’m running out of power … wi-fi on this Boeing 717 yes, power outlets no … but technology, internet, jurisdictions, mid-air financial transactions … this is the stuff our future laws will have to deal with, and obviously simply trying to prohibit online poker play or even just attempting to enforce the sooo-like-2006 UIGEA won’t cut it.

Posted by DanM at 1:22 pm

June 5, 2009

Kentucky, iMega, and Denmark in Online Gambling News

Perspectives Weekly

Let’s get ready to rumble! It’s time for the next round in the battle of iMega vs. the State of Kentucky! Not only that, but this week we show video evidence of Governor Steve Beshear’s true motivations for banning online gambling in that state! Also, we have online gambling news from Intertops, Microsoft, and Denmark! What a show!

Posted by J. Todd at 6:35 pm

January 21, 2009

RE: Kentucky Appeals Kentucky Appeal

More technicality than principle; internet police laws at stake

A look at the non-poker media’s take on the Kentucky case as it moves through The System:

From the subscription newsletter blog Daily Online Examiner

By Wendy Davis, Wednesday, January 21, 2009
Kentucky’s Move To Kill Online Gambling Squashed — For Now

In a closely watched case, an appellate court in Kentucky rebuffed the state governor’s attempts to shut down online gambling. But, while the case attracted attention from a wide range of outside groups who made all sorts of lofty constitutional arguments, the judges ended up deciding the case on a technicality.

The court ruled 2-1 that the government couldn’t confiscate domain names of 141 out-of-state gambling sites because the 1974 forfeiture law only applied to gambling “devices,” like roulette wheels.

“It stretches credulity to conclude that a series of numbers, or Internet address, can be said to constitute a ‘machine or any mechanical or other device,’ ” judge Michelle Keller wrote.

The dispute started late last summer, when the state hired a law firm to bring proceedings against online gambling companies. At the time, Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear made no secret of his protectionist motives. He said he wanted to shutter the gambling sites as part of an effort to preserve horse racing, which he termed the state’s signature industry.

As news of the court showdown spread, a wide range of groups questioned whether one state could legally reach beyond its borders to claim jurisdiction over sites with a global reach. Outside parties — ranging from trade organizations like the Interactive Gaming Council and the Internet Commerce Association to civil rights groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation and ACLU — weighed in on behalf of the Web sites.

The groups argued the law was unconstitutional for a host of reasons, including that Kentucky had no right to block sites visited by a worldwide audience.

While the appeals court dodged those issues for now, they’re bound to recur. If Kentucky rewrites its laws to specifically include domain names, the court will again be faced with determining how far one state can go to police the Web.

See what others are saying on the Online Examiner blog.

I guess it kinda depends how you look at it. Some might say a 66-33 percent victory is pretty dominating. Others might see winning by just one vote as a tiny margin of error.

Posted by DanM at 4:22 pm

Kentucky Appeals Kentucky Appeal

Pappas: Bring it on You should be ashamed, Gov. Beyotch!

The PPA just put out a statement, regarding actions yesterday in Kentucky that shows the Governor has no intention of backing down on his desire to seize control of 141 gambling-related internet domains located outside of Kentucky, and America for that matter. Yee-haw! I’m tellin’ ya … it’s off to the Supreme Court we go on the way-bigger-than-poker issues in play here.

(Anyone wanna agree on a bet over the internet and transfer funds via PayPal?)

Though I’m not totally sure, I think Kentucky higher courts work like volleyball, or tennis after deuce. If you can win two points in a row, you win outright. The state of Kentucky won the first case, and had we lost our first appeal, we’d be dead. But we won … so now it’s their serve, and if we win that — the appeal to the appeal — I think then they can go no higher (can someone confirm this?). But if they win, then we can appeal to the state Supreme Court, yadda yadda.

Anyhow, John Pappas taunting Kentucky gov. Steve Beshear — reminding him he has an election in the not-too-distant future, and a plausibly disgruntled citizenry to answer to:

PPA Statement on Commonwealth of Kentucky Appeal of Domain Name Seizure Ruling

WASHINGTON, DC. (January 21, 2009) – John Pappas, executive director of the Poker Players Alliance (PPA), the leading poker grassroots advocacy group with more than one million members nationwide, today issued the following statement regarding the appeal filed by the Commonwealth of Kentucky in light of yesterday’s ruling by the state court of appeals overturning a lower court decision allowing the Commonwealth to seize Internet gambling domain names.

“Kentucky residents should be outraged that the Commonwealth is investing another minute of time and another dollar of scarce resources in this quixotic case. The appeals court’s sound rejection of the Commonwealth’s case should have ended this legal debacle in its tracks. Unfortunately, the Governor and the hired-gun attorneys want to drag their ultimate defeat to another venue at the expense of Internet freedom and the rights of law-abiding Kentucky poker players.”

A copy of the Commonwealth’s appeal can be found at www.pokerplayersalliance.org.

BTW, for those in need of a lexicographic refresher, here’s a definition of “quixotic”.

Posted by DanM at 3:14 pm

January 20, 2009

Internet Gaming wins a battle in Kentucky

A three judge Kentucky Court of Appeals panel ruled today in a 2-1 decision that the state’s attempt to seize 141 internet gambling domain names could not take place. More details can be found at Poker News Daily and the full decision on the Poker Players Alliance website. It’s expected for the state of Kentucky to file an appeal, which would move the matter to the Kentucky Supreme Court, in the very near future. More news as it becomes available.

Posted by Kevin Mathers at 4:31 pm

December 15, 2008

South Carolina Court to Decide: Is Poker a Game of Skill?

Kentucky courts update, too

Poker is having its day in court, that’s for sure. One case getting press all over South Carolina comes from a busted $20 tourney being held in a private home — raided in 2006 by heavily armed police — where 5 of the 25 arrested have refused generous plea bargains and are trying to persuade a presumably non-poker jury that poker Texas Hold’em is indeed a game of skill. A judge has ruled that the defendants do indeed have the right to present witnesses and evidence to make to support this claim. A court date is expected to be set for later this winter.

More here (Charleston.net) and here (Up for Poker).

This is exactly how California became California, poker-wise — it took arguments about skill in the courts to pave the way for all the great poker there. I don’t know the details of the cases, but Mike Caro was one of the guys who testified, bringing charts and graphs to show statistics of specific games — hold’em, Stud, and 5-card Draw, I believe.

Meanwhile, also going on last week and drawing lots of non-poker attention (Lexington Herald-Leader, Business Week, Physorg.com) … a Kentucky Court of Appeals will attempt to begin to start to decide: Does a single US state have the right to venture across its own borders to seize internet domains of businesses based in Costa Rica and run out of a protected Indian nation in Canada … and who will get to hold onto these domains while the courts figure it all out. The court will supposedly be making its decision in January, and judicial facial tells suggest poker is leading in this court 2-1.

You know, the evidence thing has me thinking … one of the hardest things for Kentucky to prove in their case will be that online gambling does actually hurt regulated Kentucky gambling interests. You don’t have to look much further than the WSOP to present actual numbers refuting this claim. So what evidence will Gov. Beshear and the state be able to present — they have the burden of proof, after all — that suggests the opposite? I don’t think it exists, at least nothing stronger than what the poker side could present.

Posted by DanM at 9:10 am

November 10, 2008

Meanwhile, Kentucky Court Stuff to Non-Pokery People

Domain name can’t be a gambling device

Right now, the Supreme Court is (re)considering connotations of the F-word when mentioned in passing on TV. That seems particularly interesting — at least in terms of the perspective it provides — as I’m reading what Bill Poser has to say about the Kentucky domain seizure cases. Poser is a linguistics expert who contends that Gov. Steve Beshear’s claims have no teeth, because of a linguistics problem treating a domain name like a “gambling device” … which he contends simply holds no legal water.

In addition, this non-poker blogger says the case has problems because:

* Many people like internet gambling.
* Many people think that it is none of the State’s business.
* The State’s action is not the result of a consistent anti-gambling policy but is pure rent-seeking. Kentucky is a gambling-friendly state. It is just trying to reduce the competition.
* Quite a few of the domain names are not in fact associated with internet gambling sites.
* The court’s ex parte order violates due process.
* The court does not have jurisdiction over either the businesses or the domain name registrars.
* The court’s action violates the Commerce Clause of the Constitution.

For those of you who care about the outcome of this case — and really, we all should, regardless of how we feel about poker, because it potentially impacts anyone who uses the F-ing internet — check out the rest of what he has to say.

Posted by DanM at 1:25 pm

October 17, 2008

Perspectives Weekly: The Kentucky Verdict Is In

Plus the Bodog audit and poker players for John McCain

Well, to be truthful, it coulda been a lot worse! On first glance, it may look like Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear has won this court case… but not so fast. While it’s true that the court upheld the state’s right to seize the domain names, the did give online gambling company’s an out! Tune in to see!

We also release the results of our Bodog cash out audits to see how long it really takes for players to get their money… plus ask why so many online gamblers seem to be in favor of electing John McCain!

From APCW.org:

Posted by J. Todd at 9:37 am

October 10, 2008

Perspectives Weekly

From APCW.org:

Exposing John McCain! How deeply is he tied to the gambling industry? Does he want to criminalize online gambling? Why are Washington ethics groups calling for an investigation of his gambling activity? It’s certainly not our job to tell Americans whom to vote for this November, but it is our job to make sure people make the most informed decisions that they can. To that end, we have been doing some digging this week on what John McCain says and what John McCain does… and they don’t always seem to agree when it comes to gambling! Plus an in-depth look at the Kentucky domain name game.

Posted by J. Todd at 12:00 pm

October 7, 2008

Kentucky Domain-Grab Hearing Today

Kentucky Already Seized Certificates for UB, Doyles Room, and Cake

Arguments are being heard today in the Franklin County Circuit Court in Kentucky regarding the attempted seizure of 141 gaming-related domain names.

At the request of Governor Steve Beshear, the Commonwealth of Kentucky filed a civil action on September 18, 2008 to order sites like Full Tilt, PokerStars, and Doyles Room seized if they didn’t willingly forfeit their domain names, and they would be transferred to the Commonwealth. The order claimed, as did Beshear in his press conference, that the internet domains were “used to promote, conduct, and/or advance illegal gambling within the Commonwealth of Kentucky.” After a continuance, the hearing is today.

According to Gambling911, the Commonwealth of Kentucky seized some of those sought-after domain names last night, including UltimateBet.com, DoylesRoom.com, and CakePoker.com. The three sites are still running as usual, but the Commonwealth could reportedly stop them at any time. Holy Massacre of the Constitution! No need for panic yet….

Attorneys defending the sites, and even some simply standing up for the rights of online poker like iMega, are in court right now trying to stop the madness. Since Dan is on a Clonie-stalking cruise in the Bahamas business trip and I am holed up in my L.A. apartment, we were unable to get to Kentucky for the hearing today. But the PPA is there and will provide updates, and Gambling911 is live blogging from the courtroom.

Updates here as they become available…

Posted by California Jen at 8:33 am

October 5, 2008

Kentucky Domain-Grab Hearing Tuesday, Oct. 7th

PPA Helps Organize Emergency Summit on Monday, Oct. 6th

Governor Steve Beshear’s attempt to seize 141 gaming-related domain names is certainly not over in Kentucky. The Franklin County Circuit Court will hold its next hearing on the case on Tuesday, so the PPA is working with other organizations to hold a summit on Monday to put rational heads together and devise a plan to save online poker.

The emergency summit is actually being called by the Bluegrass Institute, an independent research and educational institution seeking free market solutions to Kentucky’s problems. The Bluegrass Institute will be joined by the Poker Players Alliance (PPA), Internet Commerce Association, Interactive Media Entertainment & Gaming Association (iMEGA), and Americans for Tax Reform.

When: Monday, October 6th at 1pm
Where: Capital Plaza Hotel in Frankfort, 405 Wilkinson Blvd

According to the PPA’s press release, the purpose of the summit will be as follows:

While the primary focus of the state’s action is online poker, the ramifications extend much farther into the entire realm of online commerce. This is a matter of the gravest importance, and the Bluegrass Institute is urging anyone with an interest in protecting internet freedom to join the protest against this egregious action.

Does Kentucky have jurisdiction to seize these domain names? What are the national and international ramifications should Kentucky succeed in this seizure order? What threat does this action make to the future of internet freedom and technological innovation? Do domain names fit the Kentucky statutorily definition of a gambling device?

Posted by California Jen at 9:42 am

October 3, 2008

Perspectives Weekly

Back from Barcelona and feelin’ feisty, we revisit the stupid stunts of the Governor of Kentucky in a not- so-respectful way. But don’t forget there’s other news, too… including updates on Barney Frank’s PSPA Bill which was passed a few weeks ago. Also, the status of the continuing iMEGA court case. Lastly, a brief musical look back at the CAP Convention… this show is a real “hoot”! LOL!

Posted by J. Todd at 11:07 am

September 23, 2008

RE: Kentucky Moves to Block Poker Domains (2)

The PPA responds:

PPA Statement on Kentucky Seizure of Poker Websites

WASHINGTON, DC. (September 23, 2008) – John Pappas, executive director of the Poker Players Alliance (PPA), the leading poker grassroots advocacy group with more than one million members nation-wide and more than 13,000 members in the Commonwealth of Kentucky, today issued the following statement in regards to legal action taken by the Commonwealth to seize the domain names of Internet gambling websites.

“The Poker Players Alliance is outraged at the actions taken by Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear and the Franklin County Circuit Court to seize the domain names of Internet gambling websites.  We believe this action not only unduly restricts the freedom of Kentucky residents to play games of skill, such as poker, online, but sets a precedent for censorship of the Internet by force.

“Many of Governor Beshear’s arguments – that online poker is illegal, unregulated and without a mechanism to capture tax revenue – are false. Online poker is not illegal under Kentucky law, is regulated in its home jurisdiction and the Commonwealth of Kentucky chose not to license and regulate poker websites.

“If the Governor truly wants to implement tighter regulations, taxation mechanisms and consumer protections on Internet gambling, the PPA suggests he publicly support federal legislation by U.S. House of Representatives Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank, H.R. 2460, which would achieve those goals

“Poker is a game of skill, a true American pastime and has a proud heritage in Kentucky. Simply because the game has evolved into the 21st Century, it should not be treated as suspect activity.  Forcefully and secretly seizing control of websites that offer online poker games is not a sound public policy or a sound legal solution.”

Posted by DanM at 12:17 pm

RE: Kentucky Moves to Block Poker Domains

Governor officially declares war on online poker, web freedom

Wow friggin’ wow … sorry, trying to reign in the visceral reaction, but that’s all I can say the more I learn about what’s going on in Kentucky, and Gov. Steve Beshear’s intent on taking unprecedented legal action against online poker (and other online gambling) companies. Don’t think he’s serious — that this is an effort on which he’s willing to stake his political career? The state is already claiming to have seized legal control over FullTiltPoker.com and 140 other sites … and we all remember what happened to Bodog.com the last time American courts got into it with ICANN over issues of not-so-eminent domain.

Have a listen to Beshear’s declaration of war against an industry near and dear to so many of our hearts, and decide for yourself if you think he’s bluffing:

Steve Beshear vs. Online Poker (right-click to save/download)
Kentucky governor on the need for hostile domain takeover
Sep 22, 2008

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(5 min 29 sec)

Prediction: If this case makes it into court in any non-frivolous way, it will end up in the Supreme Court. With or without online poker as a defendant, Kentucky is challenging what government can and can’t do in terms of policing/taxing the internet, issues of states rights vs. federal law, and matters of international treaty and internet jurisdiction to boot.

More…

Posted by DanM at 11:37 am

September 22, 2008

Kentucky Moves to Block Poker Domains

The governor wants to erect a massive force field around the entire state to protect its citizens (and visitors) from electronically accessing the evils of untaxed gambling.

And we thought Washington state was bad for making it a felony to play online poker … now, in Kentucky, Governor Steve Beshear is trying to seize control of 141 gambling-related sites, blocking access to the likes of Full Tilt, PokerStars, Bodog, et al.

[Via AintLuck.com]

Yikes, this is some pathetic/scary shit. Not because he’s declaring sites we know and love as criminal enterprises, but because the guv wants to control its citizens’ private web access!

Um, hello, communism? What makes it worse is that he seems to be doing it on behalf of the brick-and-mortar casino industry … dude, I know you guys are slow in Kentucky, but the idea that online play hurts as opposed to helps casinos went dead in like 2006. No details on how one would actually block the internet within state lines … I suppose you can force your cable and phone providers to behave in certain ways … but, um, out-of-town cell phones maybe? Seriously, ‘Tucky-Guv-Dude, are you really that out of touch with the world/American Constitution?

[Non-topical, anti-Republican rant deleted] Stupid Democrat.

Posted by DanM at 8:48 pm