1. 
   bcd says:
   May 22nd, 2009 at 12:19pm
   

   Men the Master?

   what, are you implying that there is going to be a massive chip dumping scandal at the WSOP ’09?

2. 
   BJ Nemeth says:
   May 22nd, 2009 at 12:20pm
   

   I’d have to see everyone else’s lists, but I don’t think I’d take your #3 on principle alone — even in the final round. I’d have skipped Evdakov, and I’m surprised Isaac Baron went that low. I probably would have picked him earlier.

3. 
   BJ Nemeth says:
   May 22nd, 2009 at 12:21pm
   

   I’d have to see everyone else’s lists, but I don’t think I’d take your #3 on principle alone — even in the final round. I’d have skipped Evdakov, and I’m surprised Isaac Baron went that low. I probably would have picked him earlier. I’ll back you on your #1 pick though. He may not be the first overall pick, but I think he’s a first-rounder, even if Negreanu laughs.

4. 
   Kevin Mathers says:
   May 22nd, 2009 at 12:25pm
   

   Have to agree with BJ about the Men and Evdakov selections. Without seeing the other lineups or criteria, it looks like Dan was going for people who’ve accumulated a lot of cashes.

5. 
   DanM says:
   May 22nd, 2009 at 12:54pm
   

   I’m working on adding everyone’s picks … but just a quick defense of Evdakov … don’t you think people have the ability to learn overtime? I see about four cashes for him and at least one final table.

6. 
   Kevin Mathers says:
   May 22nd, 2009 at 12:56pm
   

   Considering last year Evdakov had 10 cashes and three top-18 finishes, that’d be a disappointment imo.

7. 
   Mark says:
   May 22nd, 2009 at 1:10pm
   

   Here’s my roster so far (12 team draft, six rounds )
   1.5 Negreanu
   2.8 Scotty
   3.5 Kenny Tran
   4.8 David Williams
   5.5 Men Nguyen :-O

   All bracelet events count, points based on $ won. Not taking Men because he’s a douche is like not taking TO if he falls to you in a football draft. Gotta take value where you find it and pick with your head, not heart. jmo.

8. 
   BJ Nemeth says:
   May 22nd, 2009 at 1:52pm
   

   Mark — I don’t fault anyone else (except Dan) for picking Men Nguyen, but I wouldn’t want him on my team. If I won the contest because of his results, that wouldn’t be a satisfying victory for me.

   Here are a few of the players (from the fourth round or below) that I would happily pick before Men Nguyen: Nenad Medic, Jeff Madsen, Matt Brady, Jonathan Little, Nam Le, Tom Schneider, and Vivek Rajkumar. There are definitely others, but these are the ones that I personally consider to be automatic picks ahead of Men Nguyen.

   FYI, Nguyen barely eked out a profit on his own results at the ’06 WSOP, and hasn’t had a really good showing since ’03 when he won 2 bracelets with 5 Top-Four finishes. (But that was before huge prelim fields, and his cashes that year came in events with 78-135 entrants.)

   I might do a side bet with Dan, if he’s interested. Nenad Medic or Jonathan Little against Men Nguyen. (Dan gets to pick my guy out of those two.) Before we put money on it, I just need to know the scoring criteria — POY points, money earned, or some other point system?

   I know it’s just a fantasy draft, but real general managers know that character matters. I wouldn’t pick Men Nguyen for the same reason that he doesn’t have a major poker sponsorship.

9. 
   DanM says:
   May 22nd, 2009 at 1:55pm
   

   Yes, I really think Men was my worst pick. I don’t know who suggested him to me. Probably Tom.

   Here are the scoring criteria:

   Here’s the scoring breakdown:
   1 point for making the money
   2 points for the top 50
   5 points for top 20
   10 points for the final table, then:
   1 additional point for ninth
   2 additional points for eighth
   4 additional points for seventh
   6 additional points for sixth
   10 additional points for fifth
   15 additional points for fourth
   20 additional points for third
   30 additional points for second
   40 additional points for first

   Double points will be awarded for all $10,000 events, 40K special and
   the $50,000 HORSE event.

10. 
    DanM says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 1:57pm
    

    We also are allowed 1 drop during the WSOP. So really, technically I could drop him now for an unpicked player like … um … like … who’s left? I think that’s just about all the poker players except for maybe Clonie.

11. 
    Kevin Mathers says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 1:59pm
    

    I’d drop Men for Yevgeniy Timoshenko in a second if it was my team.

12. 
    DanM says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 2:01pm
    

    are you positive he’s playing in many events? and is he all hold’em? i really might take your suggestion … but am not positive it’s the right time to use my 1 drop. but your yevgeniy notion definitely has me thinking …

13. 
    Kevin Mathers says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 2:04pm
    

    I’m assuming he’ll be doing mostly holdem, I’m sure I can think of an all-around player if needed momentarily.

    Edit: Kirill Gerasimov

14. 
    BJ Nemeth says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 2:04pm
    

    I assume you have to make the money first before any of the other points kick in, right? It seems ludicrous to give out 4 points for making the Top 50 of $50K HORSE, for example.

    Final tables and top-3 finishes is where it’s at; racking up top 50 cashes will amount to nothing more than a tiebreaker. But I have a feeling Dan doesn’t want to take my bet of Men vs. Nenad or Men vs. J-Little. 🙂

    I still think your pick of Hellmuth was a good one. But in my opinion, Gavin Smith has the best overall team.

15. 
    BJ Nemeth says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 2:05pm
    

    I’d save the drop for the first week of the Series, unless you think other teams are about to make a change.

16. 
    DanM says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 2:10pm
    

    Negreanu was offering up $10k wagers on his team.

17. 
    Kevin Mathers says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 2:16pm
    

    Looking at the rosters, I’m sure I could pick from the players not selected and beat at least 6 of the 11 teams listed. I’m not as rolled as Daniel, but I’d put $100 on it.

18. 
    DanM says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 2:21pm
    

    I think a lot of people might take action on that. In fact, I’ll put up 100 that your team doesn’t beat 6 or more.

    Done deal.

19. 
    Kevin Mathers says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 2:41pm
    

    Game on.

    Here’s my picks:

    Yevgeniy Timoshenko
    Randy Holland
    Christian Harder
    Thayer Rasmussen
    Neil Channing
    Sebastian Ruthenburg
    Justin “Boosted J” Smith
    Jason Potter

20. 
    DanM says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 2:46pm
    

    Murmur … like your picks! I’ve heard of four of them.

    (I actually gave Neil Channing some real thought.)

    BTW, Kathy Liebert was on my list, too … but just kept pushing her back. Think she woulda made a good one?

21. 
    Poker Shrink says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 2:46pm
    

    I think the last three teams are the nuts: #1 Team Dennis Phillips, #2 Team Bluff and #3 Wicked Chops (although how a WC team doesn’t have at least one naked women is oxymoronic).

22. 
    Kevin Mathers says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 2:56pm
    

    I’d have considered Kathy before Humberto.

23. 
    DanM says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 3:47pm
    

    Mark Seif’s take on his own team:

    Team Iwannapress,

    This team is a lock unless:
    1. Howard takes a dive to win 10k from me. :))
    2. Gus Hansen does not show up for the series because he is winning too much online.
    3. David Benyamine does not show up for the series because he is losing too much online.
    4. Patrik Antonious – not sure but there was a comment made I did not hear regarding him (hope he’s okay) being a bad pick
    5. Tony G. fails to fix the events by virtue of his 10,000 reporters/spys on hand
    6. Ivey wins 3 events.
    7. Chris Bjorin cashes in 10 events
    8. Eli Elezra wins an event
    9. Hellmuth wins two bracelets in the 1k buy-ins
    10. Cunningham wins the main event
    11. I win an event, Lindgren comes in second, Hevad Khan comes in third, and Justin Bonomo comes in 4th

    Tony G line made me laugh.

24. 
    Easycure says:
    May 23rd, 2009 at 8:30am
    

    Chad Brown at #50 is a steal.

25. 
    Kevin Mathers says:
    May 26th, 2009 at 1:22pm
    

    Here’s the article over at espn.com:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4199801&name=poker

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